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# Wasteworld
- URL: https://spyglass.org/jonathan-nolan-fallout/
- Published: 2024-04-13T16:23:20.000Z
- Updated: 2024-04-15T12:29:14.000Z
- Author: M.G. Siegler
- Tags: television, entertainment, gaming

[Jonathan Nolan Is Ready to Unleash ‘Fallout’ and Finish ‘Westworld’The writer-director-producer on his upcoming Amazon sci-fi series, how he wants to go back to ‘Westworld’ and the lessons of Peak TV: “If the lesson was to ease back on complexity or weirdness, I don’t want to learn that lesson.”![](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/wp-content/themes/vip/pmc-hollywoodreporter-2021/assets/app/icons/favicon.png)The Hollywood ReporterJames Hibberd![](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Fallout_S1_220829_WHIJOJ_00025RC-SPLASH-2024.jpg?w=1024)](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/jonathan-nolan-interview-fallout-westworld-1235864206/?ref=spyglass.org)

I've never played *Fallout*. But I also never played *The Last of Us*, and love that show.[1](#footnote) This adaptation, which premiered this week, [looks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-mugKDQDlg&t=193s&ref=spyglass.org) compelling – I'd be worried it's almost too whimsical, but the [DHARMA Initiative](https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/DHARMA%5FInitiative?ref=spyglass.org)\-like subversion mixed with [a little of the old ultra violence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtpYCRfAcU4&ref=spyglass.org) seems like a good counter. The latter, of course, was also used to great effect in Jonathan Nolan's and Lisa Joy's *Westworld* (more on that below). 

The evolution of gaming has clearly now made for a fairly seamless transition to the screen – well, the other screen, well actually, *the same screen*, just television/film content instead of games. Nolan clearly agrees:

> When Todd and I first sat down for lunch, the bar was not only not high, it was nonexistent — especially in the TV space. You would have people adapting a first-person game and \[a studio would be like,\] “So the show is going to have a first-person point of view.” No, that’s a grammatical tick of the game, that’s not how you adapt it. It’s always nice to be the first one. But when somebody makes something as good as *The Last of Us*, it makes it easier, because suddenly everyone understands what’s possible.  
>  
> Also, I love comic books, but how many people do you know actually go to comic book stores? Compare that to how many friends you have who play video games. There was a run in the late 2000s of games where the storytelling was provocative and exciting, and there was a lot more punk rock in video games than I had seen in the movie business. When people have spent 50 to 100 hours in a world, their level of investment is very different.

Yes, it was really only a matter of time before videogames made for great content in film/television formats – [both the audience and filmmakers simply needed to age into it](https://spyglass.org/videogames-hollywood/), just as they had done previously with comics. 

> **Is there any possibility that *Westworld*‘s original planned ending will be dramatized in any form — whether as a graphic novel or a movie or anything? Do you still have hope for that?**  
>  
> Yes, 100 percent. We’re completionists. It took me eight years and a change of director to get *Interstellar* made. We’d like to finish the story we started.

While *Westworld* almost got too lost in its own maze in the latter seasons, the early days were fantastic. Perhaps this inadvertent pause, while working on things like *Fallout*, will help Nolan and Joy get back to it and get it back to its form to complete it. You could easily see a *Westworld* movie, just as the creators of *Deadwood* were eventually able to end their western as well. 

In other odds & ends of the interview, guess who wrote [the most famous line from *The Dark Knight*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WfRcnF4iZI&ref=spyglass.org)? The same guy who rowed crew at Georgetown with Bradley Cooper – and apparently broke his back doing so! Mainly, I can't get over the fact that [Jonathan Nolan speaks with an American accent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFRXTy%5F8G7w&ref=spyglass.org) while Christopher Nolan speaks with a British one.[2](#footnote) 

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1 Admittedly, I haven't played a lot of videogames in recent years/decades. Some Nintendo Switch games and the occasional iOS game. But the reality is that it was one of the elements of my life that I cut out to make room for family. I miss gaming sometimes, but I'm also worried I'd be overwhelmed by how much the art form has evolved -- hence games like *Fallout* and *The Last of Us*. One day...   
  
2 Undoubtedly due to a very [intertwined childhood](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan%5FNolan?ref=spyglass.org) for both kids -- British father, American mother, British upbringing, American summers. But Jonathan is both younger (and so learned to ["speak American"](https://web.archive.org/web/20141129110639/http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews%5F10195.html) earlier) and whereas Christopher went to college in England, Jonathan stayed in America and attended Georgetown -- hence the Bradley Cooper overlap above.